Official Records for 6 April 1997

L176N - Sun 6 Apr 1997 / Dim 6 avr 1997

CITY OF TORONTO ACT, 1996 / LOI DE 1996 SUR LA CITÉ DE TORONTO


Report continued from volume M.

The committee recessed from 1506 to 1523, having requested a ruling from the Speaker.

The Speaker (Hon Chris Stockwell): Be seated, please.

The First Deputy Chair (Ms Marilyn Churley): Mr Speaker, I have made a ruling in the House that has been challenged. The minister from Willowdale was making a point of order that all of the amendments didn't have to be read in their fullness, based on practices in the House. I ruled that members have a right to know what they are voting on, and I was going to proceed and say that I will therefore read the amendment unless the process is dispensed. My ruling has been challenged.

The Speaker: Thank you.

Hon Charles Harnick (Attorney General, minister responsible for native affairs): Mr Speaker, I would first like to refer you to standing order 26. Standing order 26 states that when the question under discussion does not appear on the Orders and Notices paper or has not been printed and distributed, any member may require it to be read at any time of the debate but not so as to interrupt a member while speaking. I have a couple of submissions to make about that section.

First of all, I submit to you that the amendments have all been printed and distributed to all caucuses in this place, and I don't believe there is any dispute about that fact. I also believe and submit, Mr Speaker, that we are no longer within the time of debate. The debate concluded with the time allocation motion, and the time allocation motion took us into the next or the voting procedural stage of the process.

I also submit to you that the time allocation motion that we are dealing with is on all fours with the time allocation motion that was dealt with under Bill 26. Mr Speaker, the next thing I'd like to refer you to is to the Hansard for the standing committee on general government, Bill 26, the Savings and Restructuring Act, dated January 26, 1996, at page G-1429. I'd just like to read a portion of that to you, to show you what the practice of the House is in the same circumstance that we are now in. It begins under the number 1300, and it says:

"The Chair: Thank you, Mr Silipo. That is not a point of order.

"The beginning place for this is schedule E, amendments to the Capital Investment Plan Act, 1993, and the Highway Traffic Act relating to highway tolls. We will deal with the amendments first. The first amendment is an NDP amendment to subsection 1(1).

"Ms Lankin: Excuse me. What page are you on?

"Mrs McLeod: Just give us a fighting chance to start at the right place, Mr Chair.

"The Chair: Page 11.

"Mrs McLeod: Page 11.

"Mr Clement: Of the amendments.

"Mrs McLeod: Oh. Thank you very much.

"The Chair: All those in favour?

"Ms Lankin: Just a second. I haven't even got to the page, Mr Chair. I know you're certainly anxious, but, you know" --

Then Mr Silipo states:

"Aren't you going to read this, Mr Chair?

"The Chair: By virtue of the fact that they're deemed to have been moved, they're also deemed to have been read.

"Mr Silipo: Okay. So you won't have to read them again" --

Speaker, what I submit to you is that this demonstrates a practice that exists in this Legislature, and I say that by virtue of the practice that took place before the standing committee on general government. I believe that we have a way to deal with now agreeing that all of these amendments that we are now so tediously reading can be deemed to be read, and we can then get on with the voting process and we can in fact identify all of this series of amendments by merely identifying the street, because every one of them is the same, and certainly every member of the Legislature is familiar with the contents of these amendments. We've heard them read now for almost -- Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday -- we've done about four full days now.

So, Mr Speaker, I submit to you that we can proceed with the amendments without the need to read them in, and I think there is an opportunity now to break the deadlock and move forward and ultimately begin the voting process on Bill 103.

Ms Frances Lankin (Beaches-Woodbine): Mr Speaker, before I begin, could I ask if the member could give us the citation again of the Hansard reference that he just made so that we could take a look at that while we're proceeding?

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Hon Mr Harnick: It's the standing committee on general government, Bill 26, Savings and Restructuring Act, 26 January 1996, page G-1429.

Ms Lankin: Thank you very much. Firstly, Mr Speaker, I want to make the point that the Attorney General obviously had a number of references to standing orders and to Hansard transcripts which he believed are in support of the point of order. I would put to you that it would have been appropriate for the Attorney General to make that argument, as well, before the committee of the whole so the committee of the whole had full information when attempting to rule on this and also so that the members of the opposition were aware of the arguments that were being put and would be in a position also to respond, at that time and before you, to those arguments. I believe that is disrespectful of the process.

Secondly, to go to the point of order that has been raised, the minister refers to standing order 26. I would suggest to you that is not relevant to the order at hand. It reads:

"When the question under discussion does not appear on the Orders and Notices paper, or has not been printed and distributed, any member may require it to be read at any time of the debate, but not so as to interrupt a member while speaking."

Firstly, it deals with a question. The question under consideration here is not the amendment. The question under consideration is section 24 of the bill, but more importantly, it deals with during a debate, and as we know, we are not in that stage.

With respect to the Hansard reference that the minister has provided the assembly with, I point out to you that it is a Hansard reference from a standing committee and the procedures there are in fact quite different than the procedures in committee of the whole and in the House.

Just to help you, and to give you an example of another Hansard reference of a committee of the whole, which I believe is more relevant and more to the point, more in keeping with what we have here, I would refer you to the Hansard from Tuesday 6 July 1993, when the assembly was in committee of the whole House dealing with Bill 48. I'm referring now to page 2234. At that time the Chair indicated:

"It is now 5:45 and according to the terms of the order of the House dated July 5, 1993, all remaining amendments are deemed to have been moved. I shall now put every question necessary to dispose of all remaining sections and amendments."

If you look at the pages that follow you will see that when it comes to amendments to particular sections, those are read into the record, actually, to the point where, on page 2236, the Honourable Mr Laughren, the then Minister of Finance, requested "Dispense." At that point in time the Chair, as the practice has been in this committee of the whole, inquired of the members in the committee of the whole, "Dispense?" At that point one member, Mr Stockwell, said, "Read it in." The Chair continued, at that point in time, to read the entire amendment. That process continued for a number of pages, and I guess at some point in time some member of the government -- I don't know, it doesn't clearly say whether it was Mr Laughren again or not -- at page 2241, requested "Dispense," and the Chair asked "Dispense?" and one member, Mr Stockwell, said, "No, read it in." I won't continue; the record does continue.

Mr Speaker, I am sure you will know exactly what you ruled, but if memory, which is a bit foggy at this point, serves me well, I believe at the beginning of this process you indicated that it would be appropriate for these matters to be read in. It has been indicated that it would be appropriate for it to be read in at this point unless there is unanimous consent to dispense, as well as when we get to the deferred votes.

There have been precedents in the House, during the stacked deferred votes, where members require the amendment to be read in for clarification of the process, and in order for orderly proceedings with respect to the voting, it is entirely possible for it to be read in a second time at that point. Recognizing that with the doors tiled it's a very long process, on many occasions members have not done that, but I believe it is entirely in order.

I would indicate that I have not yet received a copy of the Hansard transcript that the minister refers to. I've asked staff to get that copy. I don't know whether that would provide any other reasons or arguments that I would wish to put to you. I'm sorry to be in this situation, but as I indicated, the minister chose not to reveal his arguments prior to asking the Chair of the committee of the whole for a ruling.

Mr James J. Bradley (St Catharines): Mr Speaker, clearly those who have been in the House for a number of years would know that the common practice has been to read the amendments unless there was an agreement. It's a rather simple matter that the Attorney General has raised in the House. If there has been unanimous agreement not to read the amendments in the House then that has been allowed. When people say "Dispense" and there's general agreement to dispense, we've always dispensed with the reading of it. When there has been even one person who has objected to the dispensing motion or suggestion, then the presiding officer has in fact had the amendments read. It seems to me you did rule on that earlier, and that has been the practice, to my knowledge, if that's helpful to you, over the years, in any instances when I've been in committee of the whole.

Hon Mr Harnick: Mr Speaker, I think what we're talking about is the issue or the definition of legislative practice. I don't think, and I submit to you, that there is any right or wrong answer to what a practice is. Practices develop in given circumstances. The situation that I referred you to from the general government committee was a practice that developed and in fact worked quite successfully in that process. What I submit to you is that, yes, in certain circumstances, as the member for Beaches-Woodbine outlined, a different practice was used. It doesn't mean that what happened at the general government committee was wrong or that a mistake was made in the case that the member for Beaches-Woodbine sets out. What it does mean, I submit to you, is that you have the flexibility to take a look at how broadly you wish to define practice.

Given the circumstances that we are in today, given the circumstances that today it appears that amendments are created by computer as opposed to by thoughtful drafting, certainly you have a certain latitude to say what the practice should be in conjunction with the particular situation that we are in. I don't think, Mr Speaker, again, that there's a right or wrong answer, but I think the general circumstances that exist should be considered.

Mr Bud Wildman (Algoma): I've listened carefully and I now have the reference that the Attorney General has referred to, of the general government committee. I think it's important to recognize two things. I agree with him that there may not be a right or wrong answer in dealing with practice. We are dealing in this committee of the whole House with the normal practice of this House, and that is, where there is a request for dispensing of reading, the Chair asks if the House agrees, and if there is not unanimous consent then the amendment is read. That is normal practice, a long-time practice that I have been familiar with for 22 years in this Legislature.

If we look at the particular matter in the standing committee on general government that is cited by the Attorney General, you'll see that on G-1429 and on G-1430 there is some discussion in the committee about whether or not the amendments will be read and the Chair says they have been deemed to have been read. I think what is significant is the reaction of other members of the committee to that. They acquiesce. In other words, they agree. It is done by agreement. They agreed.

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Mr Silipo said, "Okay. So you won't have to read them again" --

Hon Mr Harnick: Let's hear what Mrs Caplan says.

Mrs Caplan just says, "Now, when you're saying page 11, is that page 11 on the printed page or page 11 -- " That's all she says at that point. Then the Chair says, "Page 11 of the amendments."

Then Ms McLeod says on the next page, 1430: "There are pages where the amendments have been renumbered, as you know, including at the nth hour. It is virtually impossible for anybody to have renumbered all these pages, so if you could at least give us some indication of what we're dealing with, it would be helpful."

"The Chair: As we go through, we will try to avoid any conclusion."

So they proceed. I would submit to you that this is done with the acquiescence of the members of the committee.

We have been asked here for unanimous consent repeatedly, and for whatever reason, various members of the committee of the whole House have not agreed to unanimous consent to dispense with the reading.

Hon Ernie L. Eves (Deputy Premier, Minister of Finance): Mr Speaker, if I may briefly address the same point of order, I would like to bring to your attention that the ruling that was given by the Chair of the standing committee on general government that's been alluded to by the Attorney General was agreed to by the member for Oriole, the member for Dovercourt, the member for Beaches-Woodbine --

Mr Wildman: That's my point.

Hon Mr Eves: -- who is now speaking in opposition to the argument, and the member for Fort William. All did not unanimously agree, with all due respect, I say to the member for Algoma. They accepted the Chair's ruling.

Mr Wildman: They didn't.

Hon Mr Eves: No, they accepted the Chair's ruling. There was no call for unanimous consent. I invite you to look at Hansard, Mr Speaker, and see if unanimous consent was ever requested or asked for, because they agreed that the Chair had made, in fact, an appropriate and proper ruling.

There is a difference also, I say to the member for Beaches-Woodbine, between the circumstance that the member for St Catharines alluded to, because I believe, if you check the Hansard and the two examples they have chosen, they were not dealing there with a time allocation motion.

The difference is quite precise and to the point, I think. In a time allocation motion, where they have been deemed to have been moved, we have one ruling I know of in the history of the Ontario Legislature where the Chair of a committee has ruled that where they have been deemed to have been moved, they have also been deemed to have been read. That is the difference between the two circumstances that the member for Beaches-Woodbine was alluding to and that the member for St Catharines was alluding to, and I would respectfully ask you to take those matters under advisement.

Mr John Gerretsen (Kingston and The Islands): Mr Speaker, when we speak about a body of law, such as tradition and precedents, that we have in the House or anyplace else, we're talking about a series of positions that have been taken over a certain period of time, out of which then certain conclusions can be drawn, upon which parliaments in the future can rely.

If the Attorney General and the Minister of Finance point merely to one isolated incident where in one committee of this House -- not the committee of the whole, not the House itself but a committee of the House -- that has either been unanimously agreed to by that committee or acquiesced in by certain members of that committee, if he relies on that as being the precedent for no longer going through with the standard practice of having the amendments read either in the committee of the whole or before committees, then I would say he is totally wrong in that. Practice and precedent take a lot more than one isolated incident that may have occurred in the past on which to rely for any future ruling. I would suggest and respectfully submit that you uphold the ruling of the Chair.

Ms Lankin: Mr Speaker, I want to come back to again underline the distinction between a ruling that was made by a Chair of a standing committee, in a process in a standing committee, and a process in committee of the whole under a time-allocated bill, which is where we are now. The Hansard reference I provided for you I believe is more to the point. But while I know you have on a number of occasions indicated that you could not overrule what happens in a standing committee, that it's a different process, we do know that there are sometimes decisions taken there that we have all in this assembly questioned but we live with those.

The particular Chair of this standing committee actually liked the concept of deeming, I guess. There was a debate that followed two pages on from where the Attorney General read into the record today which was when the members got into voting on the amendments and the Chair indicated that he would have to read through all 350 amendments, and if there were divisions, the divisions would be stacked to the end and then we would go through them again and would have to vote on them all at that point in time. At that point, given that we weren't reading the text of the amendments in, it would have been a series of, "Amendment 1: ayes, nays, division, deferred; amendment 2: ayes, nays, division, deferred." The discussion that ensued went something like this, and I as a member of the committee at that time, along with a number of others, was trying to bring some reason to the approach and suggested in the middle of the text of my interjection on page 1430:

"So far, you've told us that we've deemed that they've all been moved and we've deemed that they've all been debated, we've deemed that they've all been read into the record. We're doing a lot of deeming, so let's deem one more time. Let's deem that they have all been read and divided on and deferred and now called back. Let's get unanimous agreement to deem that they have all had a division requested on each one, deferred and now called back."

Then there's a little more debate. Again I'm trying to be helpful at that point and I say: "I respect the rules. Because I have chaired enough" of them. I'm trying to bring some reason. Without reading it to you, I go through the request again and suggest that we "deem that all the amendments have been put to this committee and deem that a division had been requested on each one. That now brings you back to the point of going through them to take a recorded vote. I would hope that's a helpful suggestion." The Chair at the time says, "Is everybody in favour of -- " and Mrs Caplan and other members of the committee, government and all, agree, and that is the process that is followed from there on.

I would argue to you it actually is a set of bizarre rulings through the course of that day and I think probably not one of the best examples of appropriate chairing and interpretation of rules of order that could be brought before the House.

But I do return to my primary point, which is that it is not on point and the reference to Bill 48 committee of the whole is a much more relevant precedent for you to review.

Mr Wildman: I won't prolong this. I just want to clarify one thing. When I was speaking earlier, the Attorney General interjected to quote Mrs Caplan, on G-1430, as saying, "We never agreed to that crap." She did indeed say that but she wasn't referring to what he said she was referring to. She was referring to the time allocation motion. Indeed, I think none of the members of the opposition agreed to that "crap" -- if I can use the colloquialism -- the time allocation motion.

Farther on page 1431, after the reference my colleague from Beaches-Woodbine refers to in which she suggested a way of dealing with this, Mr Silipo says, "That we can do with agreement, Mr Chair." Mrs Caplan says, "Agreed."

The Speaker: I appreciate the submissions from all sides. I think I'll take 30 minutes to review the submissions and other things.

The House recessed from 1549 to 1624.

The Speaker: I will be taking an additional two-hour recess. I'm going to review some materials and I will get back to the House at that time.

The House recessed from 1625 to 1825.

The Speaker: I'm going to ask for another hour. I realize that it's difficult and it's time-consuming, but I need another hour.

The House recessed from 1826 to 1932.

The Speaker: I want to thank all members for their submissions on this issue, and in addition, for their patience during the extended recess.

I want to begin by explaining procedures with respect to considerations of motions in the House. A motion must first be moved by a member. It is then read from the chair for consideration and finally a decision by the House. In the case of clause-by-clause consideration of a bill in committee, the same procedures apply. A member moves an amendment and the amendment is then read from the chair. The reason for this is very straightforward. It is a safeguard mechanism in the system that helps to prevent errors from being made. Because we do not require that notice be given for all amendments to bills in committee, at least the committee of the whole, and do not print or distribute to all members the text of the proposed amendments, several versions of an amendment may exist.

The practice of requiring an amendment to be read provides all members present with the opportunity to hear the proposed amendment. For the Chair, the clerks and those members who have received the printed amendments in advance, it is an opportunity to compare what is being read with the printed text that is before them. The fundamental parliamentary principle behind this procedure is that every member has a right to know what he or she is voting on.

Under a time allocation motion such as we are currently operating under, the procedure is altered somewhat. The first part of the process is eliminated by virtue of the terms of the motions which state the amendments are deemed to have been moved. This does not, however, mean that the amendment is also deemed to have been read from the chair. Indeed, the reading from the chair in this circumstance would be the first time the amendment is ever heard. The Chair may only dispense with the reading of the amendment with unanimous consent, even in the face of a time allocation motion such as the one we are operating under.

The precedent cited by the member for Beaches-Woodbine with respect to the committee of the whole consideration of the Social Contract Act, 1993, bears this out. The excerpt from the standing committee on general government provided by the Attorney General in my view does not convey a definitive ruling to the contrary. Therefore, I find the Chair was absolutely correct in his ruling. Our practices and procedures require the amendments to be read.

However, in considering this point of order, I was struck by the principle behind the practice, that is, that every member has a right to know what he or she is voting on. I, as Speaker, have a responsibility to preserve that right, but I believe that a modern definition of Speaker requires that decisions are taken which are also in the best interests of the institution of Parliament. On occasion, in particular when faced with extraordinary circumstances, Speakers may have to intervene in a way which seeks to enable the parliamentary process to accomplish the business at hand. For example, in 1981, following extended bell ringing in the House of Commons of Canada, Speaker Sauvé intimated that in the future she would be more proactive.

In this House, Speaker Warner, quoting Speaker Fraser, said on May 27, 1991, that the Speaker does have a latitude to act in exceptional instances. I believe this House finds itself in an exceptional circumstance. Committee of the whole is dealing with a extraordinary number of amendments. A substantial number of those amendments are identically worded, with the exception of a street which is different on each.

Over the last several days, I have searched other jurisdictions for solutions to this conundrum that we find ourselves in. To be frank, we have found some solutions that other jurisdictions have developed over the last 20 years because they were faced with very similar dilemmas. These jurisdictions had to work their way through these difficulties and subsequently develop rules to resolve them. The problem we have is that those rules are not applicable to this Parliament and these particular circumstances. Therefore, I am proposing to do two things. First, in this instance, for the purpose of the balance of the NDP amendments to section 24(4), a copy of the wording of the amendment minus the street name will be made available to each member. The Chair then will be required to read the street name prior to putting the question on each amendment.

Let me be very clear. This process will be applied to this series of amendments only and should not be construed to be a precedent for the reading of amendments in the future. This does not mean that I'm finding these amendments to be frivolous or tendered in a spirit of mockery. The members should understand that this decision will only shorten this process up to a point. You must understand we are still going to be here for an extended period of time.

In closing, I implore the House leaders to begin the process of negotiating an agreement that will resolve this impasse for the benefit of the members, the employees, the citizens of this province and this great institution.

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House in committee of the whole.

CITY OF TORONTO ACT, 1996 / LOI DE 1996 SUR LA CITÉ DE TORONTO

Continuing consideration of Bill 103, An Act to replace the seven existing municipal governments of Metropolitan Toronto by incorporating a new municipality to be known as the City of Toronto / Projet de loi 103, Loi visant à remplacer les sept administrations municipales existantes de la communauté urbaine de Toronto en constituant une nouvelle municipalité appelée la cité de Toronto.

The Chair (Mr Gilles E. Morin): Order. Each member will be receiving a copy of the NDP motion minus the street name, and we'll explain to you after that what will happen.

Mr Wildman: We don't have them yet.

The Chair: You will have them shortly.

You should have a copy of the NDP motion, the NDP amendment. Please take your seats. Additional copies are also available at the table.

I will start.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): East Lynn Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): East Park. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): East Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): East Whitcomb. Shall the motion carry?

Mr Gilles Pouliot (Lake Nipigon): On a point of order, Mr Speaker.

The Chair: If everybody sits, then I'll be able to listen to your point of order.

Mr Pouliot: Would you kindly repeat, for my edification, the last name of the street, please.

The Chair: Yes, I'll do that: East Whitcomb. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): East Willow Gate. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Eastbourne Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Eastbourne Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Eastdale Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Eastern Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Eastern Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Eastgate Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Eastglen Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of --

Mr Howard Hampton (Rainy River): On a point of order, Mr Chairman: Would you mind spelling that so I can be sure of it, please?

The Chair: Eastglen Crescent, e-a-s-t g-l-e-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

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NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Easthampton Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

The Chair: Eastlea Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Eastmoor Crescent.

Mr Hampton: On a point of order, Mr Chairman: May I ask for the spelling of that, please.

The Chair: Order. He is totally within his rights. Every member is entitled to know what he is voting for.

Interjections.

The Chair: Order. Take your seat, please. Minister?

Hon Jim Wilson (Minister of Health): Mr Speaker, I thoroughly read the standing orders and some 500 pages of Beauchesne and Erskine May. I don't see any requirement that if the guy is a poor speller that you're in charge of ensuring that he knows how to spell street names in Toronto -- that is, if this street is in Toronto, because so many of them haven't been. Chair, there is no requirement for this and it is making a mockery of this process.

The Chair: I have to reconfirm what I just said: Each member is entitled to know what they're voting for. If a member asks me for the spelling, I have no other choice than to give him or her the spelling.

Mr John R. Baird (Nepean): On a point of order, Mr Chairman.

The Chair: A point of order on this amendment?

Mr Baird: Yes. Could perhaps one of the assistant clerks take the pile and photocopy it and provide the member from Fort Frances the papers so that he will have it right in front of him if he can't spell?

Interjections.

The Chair: Order. The understanding was that each of you were to receive a copy of the amendment without the street on it. That was the understanding, and that is the procedure I'm going to follow.

The member from Durham?

Mr Jim Flaherty (Durham Centre): What has been happening here -- we saw it on Friday and Saturday -- is that these are NDP motions; they have them there. They've been withdrawing them before they've been even read by the Chair because they're duplicates. They know full well each and every piece of paper you're looking at, sir, and for them to ask them to be read is an insult to the House and an insult to the ruling the Speaker just made. The leader of the NDP has them right beside him in the box and he can look at them, sir.

Interjections.

The Chair: Order. Take your seat, please. Look at the whole thing objectively. Look at the length of time it took before and look at the time it takes now. Let's try it out. If it doesn't work, we'll work --

Interjections.

The Chair: Order. If you don't like my ruling, appeal it -- simple as that. Okay, we'll do that.

The committee rose and requested a ruling of the Speaker.

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The Speaker: Please be seated.

The Chair: Mr Speaker, I implemented your ruling, then the member stood up on a point of order asking for me to spell the name of the street, which I did, because you said that each member is entitled to know exactly what they are voting for, and there was a member who objected to that. That's why we request your ruling on this.

Mr Flaherty: Mr Speaker, the point of order raised by the member for Rainy River upon which there was a ruling by the Chair was that he needed to have the spelling of the various street names. The reality which is evident from Hansard over the past several days is that these are NDP motions, as you the Speaker have noted.

The boxes of the motions are sitting beside the leader of the third party. They have been going through them motion by motion and withdrawing some of them, because they are either blank or they do not refer to a place that exists in Toronto; so they are obviously following them along. That has been going on Friday and Saturday and Sunday.

For the leader of the third party to stand here and say he requires spellings of documents that can be handed to him, that are right by his left arm, I submit is not in the spirit of the ruling the Speaker made but 10 or 15 minutes ago, particularly given that some of the motions are clearly out of order and need to be withdrawn in any event. If they have to be withdrawn, that means they're following them. They can't have it both ways, Speaker.

Interjection.

Mr Flaherty: The member for Algoma acknowledges they're following along. If they are following along, they're looking at the spellings. That is why I ask you to exercise your discretion, which you have indicated already you're prepared to exercise to move the process forward, in interpreting the time allocation motion of what's necessary to be put for the members to follow along. I submit that what's necessary to be put is the name, which is clearly being read by the Chair of the committee of the whole House.

Mr Tony Silipo (Dovercourt): Mr Speaker, you have just made only minutes ago a fairly significant ruling, which you yourself categorized as being exceptional to deal with the exceptional circumstance that we find ourselves in. I think it behooves all of us in the spirit of accepting, as we must, your ruling, that that surely still leaves two important things:

First is that these amendments, it should be remembered, are in order. You have ruled on that three or four times at least. For the member for Durham Centre to stand up and still persist in saying that these amendments are out of order is an insult to the Assembly and to the Speaker.

Secondly, and most directly to the point: surely, sir, your ruling has to leave in the hands of the Chair who is chairing the committee of the whole the latitude to on occasion provide the correct spelling of the street name when requested, so that people can be sure which street we are voting on. There are, as you know, being yourself a member from Metropolitan Toronto, many streets which sound similar but have different spellings, because they are different streets. There are many streets that have the same name with different connotations in terms of whether they are roads or crescents, and sometimes in the exchange it's not clear exactly which one it is.

It requires that kind of latitude left in the hands of the Chair. For you to go to the point of prescribing whether or not a request to the Chair on occasion for spelling to ascertain the amendment we are voting on would be really stretching the parameters of the ruling that you have made and the very significant nature of it in a way that would make it unreasonable. I don't think that was the intent of your ruling only moments ago.

Hon Mr Wilson: On the same point, Mr Speaker, your ruling a few minutes ago, I think, was consistent with not only the traditions of the House but also the fundamentals of parliamentary law. If we look at Beauchesne's sixth edition, the very sacred principles of parliamentary law, are listed, and one reads as follows: "To enable every member to express opinions within limits necessary to preserve decorum and prevent an unnecessary waste of time."

Mr Speaker, there also are some principles of some of us who were brought up in this society, and that is that we have responsibility to inform ourselves to a certain degree. I think the honourable member, given that these are his amendments, has a responsibility to inform himself about the correct spelling of the street name contained in the NDP amendments.

I would put to you that this is a waste of time. If the honourable members across the way are going to insist on the spelling of every word in their amendments. I put to you, Mr Speaker, that it is a mockery of this process. You yourself just a few minutes ago tried to shorten the process and said very clearly in your ruling that you do not see the process that you ruled on as a mockery. I think we are getting into the realm of mockery and frivolous if the honourable members are going to insist on spelling everything in their motions.

Secondly, I would hope that if we do not receive a favourable ruling from you on this point, at least in a very few minutes from now you will be back to rule that the points of order we're expecting from across the way are dilatory in nature. I would put to you again, Mr Speaker, that it is a waste of time to spell out these names of streets when they are their motions.

Hon Al Palladini (Minister of Transportation): You would think that the leader of the third party would personally know all the streets that would be directly attached to him. I just don't understand. All it is, Mr Speaker, is simply a tack to stall and waste time, and this is contrary to what you ruled on and what you try to do in this House.

You know, for him to know every street in --

The Speaker: Minister of Transportation, I'm up, and that means you are out of order if I'm up. That wasn't what I ruled. Having me sit here and you telling me that's how I ruled -- it isn't. I want to be clear what my ruling was. Continue.

Hon Mr Palladini: It seems to me the leader of the third party would like everyone here to believe that he knows personally every single street, and therefore he would like to have clarification on how a street is spelled. I really think it's somewhat irrelevant to what we are trying to do here.

Mr Hampton: Speaker, a few minutes ago in your ruling, I believe you said that it was essential in this process, which is not a debate process -- I believe if you read the citation that the minister of Health cited, it deals with debate. We're not in a debate process. We are in the process now of putting amendments, amendments which will be voted on.

My point would be, Speaker, that following from your ruling of a few minutes ago, we are entitled to know what it is now that is in the amendment and what it is that we will eventually be voting on.

I would make the point to you, Speaker, that several of these names have an unusual spelling. Several of these names have a spelling which is somewhat similar to other names. In order that we may be absolutely sure of what it is that is being put before us, and in order that we may be absolutely sure of what it is that we will eventually be voting on, it would seem to me that we would be entitled, as the Chair ruled, to, if we have any doubts, have the particular name spelled for us to lend greater certainty.

That was the point I raised with the Chair and the Chair accepted that point. I would urge in this instance, Speaker, that you uphold the Chair. I think it follows from the ruling which you made earlier, in terms of lending certainty to members, allowing members to be absolutely sure of what it is that is being placed in the form of an amendment, and what we will eventually vote on.

Mr Tony Martin (Sault Ste Marie): Mr Speaker, you'll also know that what we do here in this place is not just for us here, it's for people out there watching who see this as a very important part of the political process in this province. When we often rise in this place to ask questions of clarification, it's not just for us, it's for the folks who are calling us. We know, from the expressions of interest that are being shown and growing in proportion with every day that goes by, that there's a lot of people out there who want to understand and fully participate --

The Speaker: I appreciate your interjection, but we've got to get on topic.

Mr Martin: Previous to this, we were saying the names twice. Now we're saying it once, and there are folks out there who are watching who want to know if it's their street or if it's a street that's close by, and so it's really important that we do all that we can in this place to make sure that they understand what it is that we are talking about.

The Speaker: Thank you very much for your input. I'm going to take just five brief minutes to review the submissions and I'll be back.

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The Speaker: First let me thank the members for their submissions, the member for Durham Centre's submission and the minister of Health.

I'd like to refer back to the ruling I gave just moments ago: The fundamental parliamentary principle behind this procedure is that every member has a right to know what he or she is voting on. The fact is simple: Previous to my ruling, the names could have been spelled. After my ruling, the one portion I left in was the street: that, if a member insists on having it spelled, is allowable. It's practice. It's accepted. It's been done.

I appreciate the fact, and I say to the members asking, that there must be some consideration with respect to requesting the spelling, and I ask all members to allow that to be given. The fact remains that that has been a practice that we have allowed to stand for many, many, many years. I would tell the Chairs that if the request is made, a simple spelling is in order. I uphold the Chair's decision.

House in committee of the whole.

The Chair: NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Eastmoor Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Eastmount Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Easton Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

If some members are wondering why the member for Downsview is not standing up and only raising her hand, it's because we have unanimous consent.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Eastpark Boulevard. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Eastside Drive. Shall the motion carry?

Mr Hampton: Point of order, Mr. Chair: What's the spelling of that?

The Chair: Eastside, e-a-s-t-s-i-d-e, Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Eastview Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Eastville Avenue. "Ville," like village. Eastville. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Eastwood Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Eastwood Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Eaton, like the store, Eaton Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Ecclesfield Drive.

Mr Hampton: Could you spell that please, Mr. Chair?

The Chair: At least you're smiling. That's what counts. E-c-c-l-e-s-field, like in "the field." Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

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Subsection 24(4): Eccleston Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Ecclestone Drive. Shall the motion carry?

Interjections.

The Chair: Ecclestone, stone like a stone. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion: Echo Point. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Echo Valley Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Echo Valley Ridge. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Ecker, like the minister. Ecker Drive, e-c-k-e-r Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Eda Court, e-d-a. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Eddystone Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

Mr Floyd Laughren (Nickel Belt): On a point of order, Mr Chair: The next one that's in sequence is Eddystone, e-d-d-y-s-t-o-n-e Avenue. We wish to withdraw it since it's a duplicate.

The Chair: It will be withdrawn.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Edenmills Road, like the Garden of Eden. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

The Second Deputy Chair (Mr Bert Johnson): NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Eden Park Road. Is it the wish of this House this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

This is an NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Eden Place. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it.

This is an NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Eden Valley Drive. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

This is an NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Edenbridge Drive. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

This is an NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Edenbrook Hill. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

This is an NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Edengarth Court. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

This is an NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Edenmills Drive. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Edenrock Court. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Edenvale Crescent. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Edenwood Drive. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Edgar Avenue. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry?

Mr Hampton: On a point of order, Mr Chair: What was the result of the last vote?

The Second Deputy Chair: The Chair recognizes the member from Rainy River on a point of order. I forgot to say, "This vote is deferred." Thank you. That was Edenwood Drive.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Edgar Avenue. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Edgar Woods Road. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Edgar Woods Road. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Edgecliff Golfway. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Edge Park Avenue. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Edgebrook Drive. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Edgecliff Golfway.

Mr Laughren: Point of order, Chair: Edgecliff Golfway, e-d-g-e-c-l-i-f-f g-o-l-f-w-a-y, is a duplicate and we wish to withdraw it.

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The Second Deputy Chair: It is done.

Mr Laughren: And the next one as well, and the one after that as well, all spelled the same.

The Second Deputy Chair: Have we got all three of those withdrawn, then? It is done.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Edgecombe Avenue. Is it the wish of this committee that this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Edgecroft Road. Is it the wish of this committee that this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Edgedale Road. Is it the wish of this committee that this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Edgehill Road. Is it the wish of this committee that this motion carry? All thos e in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Edgeley Bl.

Mr Hampton: On a point of order, Chair: Can you spell that out?

The Second Deputy Chair: Which?

Mr Hampton: The name of the particular street that we're dealing with here.

The Second Deputy Chair: The whole street? E-d-g-e-l-e-y B-l.

Mr Laughren: Mr Chair, I have a point of order too. What is "Bl"? I'm lost.

The Second Deputy Chair: "Bl"? I don't know. I'm just reading what's here, and I spelled it. I said "Edgeley Bull." Member for Nickel Belt, I want to be very clear about this. I think it's my job to read what is here. If you want me to change it, with unanimous consent I can change anything.

Mr Laughren: I'm not toying with you, Mr Chair, because I'm one of your fans, but I think this is a good example of why the opposition in particular, and I suspect some viewers out there, want some of these spelled. A lot of people would see "Bl" as "bluh" as opposed to "bull." We need to make that clear.

The Second Deputy Chair: Would you like me to pronounce "Bl" as "bluh"? I'm sorry. I want to do this job the best I can, and if I'm making mistakes, by all means please correct me. If it's "bluh," then it shall be "bluh."

Is it the wish of this committee that this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Edgemore Drive.

Mr Hampton: Point of order, Chair: Can we have the spelling of that, please?

The Second Deputy Chair: Which? The name of the street or the "Drive"?

Mr Hampton: The street, please.

The Second Deputy Chair: Have you got a copy of these in front of you?

Mr Hampton: No, I haven't.

The Second Deputy Chair: Would you make available to yourself the list, or get closer to the person? Edgemore, I don't think, can very properly be misspelled.

Mr Hampton: Point of order, Chair.

The Second Deputy Chair: The Chair recognizes the member for Rainy River on a point of order.

Mr Hampton: Sometimes we're asking for the spelling because the spelling is unusual, but sometimes we're asking for the spelling because we cannot make out the word, necessarily, when you first give it.

Hon Mr Wilson: Point of order, Mr Chair.

The Second Deputy Chair: No. I'm sorry. I want to rule on this point of order first. I want to get this very straight. I want to do the very best job that I can here.

My point is that I could spell them all, but it takes a little while, and then we could get into capital letters and so on. But you are not making available to yourself the information that's available to your caucus. It bothers me a little bit that you want to sit there and listen and ask me how you spell Edgemore when you could make available the list that the member for Nickel Belt has. I'm sorry, but I have a little bit of a problem with that.

Ms Shelley Martel (Sudbury East): We already had a ruling that --

The Second Deputy Chair: No. That is my ruling. If you would like to challenge it, by all means.

Mr Hampton: We'll challenge the Chair.

The committee rose and requested a ruling of the Speaker.

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The Speaker: Please be seated.

The Second Deputy Chair: Speaker -- and excuse my dress --

The Speaker: Excuse my dress.

The Second Deputy Chair: We had a point of order raised by the leader of the third party on the name of a street. I didn't familiarize myself with the former ruling, and I ruled in what I have since learned is the wrong way, and I'd like to apologize for taking this time and so on and getting you here. I'll correct it.

The Speaker: Thank you very much, to the Chair. I think sometimes these rulings are a little bit fast and furious. I think the ruling I gave probably covered the situation as explained to me by the Chair and we'll go with the original ruling that I gave earlier. I don't need submissions. That means if it needs to be spelled, it will be spelled. Okay? Thank you.

House in committee of the whole.

The Second Deputy Chair: My apologies to the leader of the third party. From now on, I will try to be up to date on every ruling that's been done and be able to expedite in the way this job should be done.

Mr Hampton: On a point of order, Mr Chair: On that point, if you would say the name slowly the first time, we might be able to identify it and avoid having to have it spelled.

The Second Deputy Chair: I'm sorry. Did I say "Edgemore" too quickly?

Mr Hampton: Some of the names we have not been able to make out when you say them very quickly, and therefore we ask you to spell them.

The Second Deputy Chair: Yes. If I ever say them too fast and don't spell them, you'll let me know?

Mr Hampton: Thank you, Mr Chair.

The Second Deputy Chair: I'm here to expedite and I want to do this very difficult job the very best I can. I want to give it all the attention that it needs and requires and deserves.

I think I left off at Edgemore Drive, e-d-g-e-m-o-r-e. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Edgevally Drive, e-d-g-e-v-a-l-l-e-y. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." I'm sorry; I didn't hear an aye.

Interjection.

The Chair: He may have said it; I didn't hear it. All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Edgeware Drive, e-d-g-e-w-a-r-e. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

Mr Monte Kwinter (Wilson Heights): On a point of order, Mr Chair: Just for clarification, the ruling of the Speaker was that you only had to spell them when someone asked for it. You don't have to spell every one as you do them. But that's up to you. I just want to let you know that.

The Second Deputy Chair: I appreciate that. I need all the help I can get at doing this job.

Interjections.

The Second Deputy Chair: Order. This is very serious business and I want to expedite it, I want to get on with it, I want to do it the very best I can, and I can't do it when there are members talking when I'm giving a ruling.

By way of explanation, I have found that it will expedite things a little bit better if I spell each one rather than wait until somebody wants one. So if you find that I overspell, I hope that you'll indulge me.

This is an NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Edgeway Gate, e-d-g-e-w-a-y. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

This is an NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Edgewood Avenue, e-d-g-e-w-o-o-d. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Edgewood Avenue, e-d-g-e-w-o-o-d. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

This is an NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Edgewood Cr, e-d-g-e-w-o-o-d C-r. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

Mr Laughren: On a point of order, Mr Chair: I believe, and I'm assuming that you have the same stack of amendments I do, that the next one is a duplicate.

The Second Deputy Chair: No, it isn't. That other one was Edgewood Cr, and this one is Edgewood Crescent.

Mr Laughren: Sorry.

The Second Deputy Chair: NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Edgewood Crescent, e-d-g-e-w-o-o-d. Is it the wish of this committee that this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Edgewood Gdns, e-d-g-e-w-o-o-d G-d-n-s. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Edgewood Grove, e-d-g-e-w-o-o-d. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Edilcan, e-d-i-l-c-a-n. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry?

Mr Laughren: On a point of order, Mr Chair: We wish to withdraw this amendment.

The Second Deputy Chair: Oh, thank heavens. I thought I spelled it wrong. It is done.

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NDP motion, subsection 24(4) -- order, please. Order. This is even more tedious than it was before, I want you to know. Edilou Drive, e-d-i-l-o-u. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Edinborough Court, e-d-i-n-b-o-r-o-u-g-h. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Edinburgh Court, e-d-i-n-b-u-r-g-h. Is it the wish of the committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Edison Cir, e-d-i-s-o-n c-i-r. Is it the wish of this committee that this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Edith Avenue, e-d-i-t-h. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Edith Drive, e-d-i-t-h. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Edithvale Drive, e-d-i-t-h-v-a-l-e. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Edmonton Drive, e-d-m-o-n-t-o-n. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Edmund Avenue, e-d-m-u-n-d. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Edmund Gate.

Interjections.

The Second Deputy Chair: Order. This is tedious work and I don't want anybody making a mockery of it or trivializing it. It has to be done. It has to be done, hopefully right. I'll do the best I can, but I can't have talking going on in the background or across the way. I can't concentrate on the job I have to do.

Edmund Gate, e-d-m-u-n-d. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Edna Avenue, e-d-n-a. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Edwalter Avenue, e-d-w-a-l-t-e-r. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

Mr Laughren: On a point of order, Mr Chair: We wish to withdraw the next amendment, which is spelled e-d-w-a-r-d.

The Second Deputy Chair: Edward? It's done.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Edward Avenue, spelled the same way, e-d-w-a-r-d. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Edward Street, e-d-w-a-r-d. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Edwin Avenue, e-d-w-i-n. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Edyth Court, e-d-y-t-h. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Edwin Avenue, e-d-w-i-n. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Edyth Court, e-d-y-t-h. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Eels Lake, e-e-l-s l-a-k-e. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Eenfield Avenue, e-e-n-f-i-e-l-d. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Egan Avenue, e-g-a-n. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

The Chair recognizes the member for Nickel Belt on a point of order.

Mr Laughren: Mr Chair, the next amendment, which is e-g-a-r, we wish to withdraw.

The Second Deputy Chair: I wouldn't know how to pronounce that either. It's done. That is a point of order.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Eglinton Avenue, e-g-l-i-n-t-o-n. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Ehco Pt, e-h-c-o p-t. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Eight Mile Pt, e-i-g-h-t m-i-l-e p-t. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Eighth Street, e-i-g-h-t-h. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Eileen Avenue, e-i-l-double e-n. I'm sorry, is that going to be a problem, or do you want e-e? It's a little colloquialism we used in a little town I grew up in. It will make it easier for me -- but it's not necessary -- if I spell it e-i-l-double e-n. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

Is that not done up in Timiskaming or Scarborough? Is that a problem?

Mr David Ramsay (Timiskaming): No, that's the way I do it.

Ms Annamarie Castrilli (Downsview): That's the way it's done in Downsview.

The Second Deputy Chair: I knew I wouldn't be the only one.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elana Drive, e-l-a-n-a. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elba Avenue, e-l-b-a. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elder Avenue, e-l-d-e-r. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is "dee-ferred."

I am not drawing out that word. What I am doing is waiting to make sure that there are five members standing to call for a division.

Ms Castrilli: Very fair.

The Second Deputy Chair: NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elder Street, e-l-d-e-r. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elderberry Court, e-l-d-e-r-b-e-double r-y. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elderfield Crescent, e-l-d-e-r-f-i-e-l-d. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

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NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elderidge Avenue, e-l-d-e-r-i-d-g-e. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elderwood Drive, e-l-d-e-r-w-double o-d. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Eldon Avenue, e-l-d-o-n.

Interjections.

The Second Deputy Chair: Order. I can't have this chattering back and forth. I'm making mistakes and it's because of the concentration that I have to give it. I can't have this back-and-forth chatter.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Eldon Avenue, e-l-d-o-n. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Eldora Avenue, e-l-d-o-r-a. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

The First Deputy Chair: Okay. NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Eldorado Court. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Eleanor Avenue. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Electro Road, e-l-e-c-t-r-o. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Eleventh Street. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elfindale Crescent, e-l-f-i-n-d-a-l-e. All those in favour of the motion, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. It will be a deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elford Boulevard, e-l-f-o-r-d. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elfreda Boulevard. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elgar Avenue. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All in favour of the motion, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion: Elgin, e-l-g-i-n, Avenue. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

Mr Laughren: On a point of order, Madam Chair.

The First Deputy Chair: A point of order, the member for Nickel Belt.

Mr Laughren: Thank you, Madam Chair, and welcome back to the chair.

The First Deputy Chair: It's a pleasure to be here.

Mr Laughren: We would like to withdraw the next two motions; both which are Eglinton are duplicates.

The First Deputy Chair: You want to withdraw Eglinton Avenue East and Eglinton East.

Mr Laughren: Yes.

The First Deputy Chair: Okay, they're withdrawn.

Mr Laughren: Thank you.

The First Deputy Chair: NDP motion: Elhurst Court. Oh, I'm sorry. NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elhurst Court. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion: Elinor Avenue. I'm sorry, I did it again. I have to get used to this new system.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elinor Avenue. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion: Elise Terrace, e-l-i-s-e Terrace. NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elise Terrace. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it.

Mr Laughren: On a point of order.

The First Deputy Chair: Deferred vote. We have to take the vote first. Done. A point of order, member for Nickel Belt.

Mr Laughren: Thank you. I didn't mean to interrupt you before you deferred the vote. I wish to withdraw the next motion, which is Elizabeth.

The First Deputy Chair: That shall be withdrawn.

Mr Laughren: Thank you.

The First Deputy Chair: NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elizabeth Street. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. A deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elkhorn Drive. That's e-l-k-h-o-r-n. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elkpath. That's e-l-k-p-a-t-h Avenue. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elkwood Drive. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Ellendale Drive. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Ellenhall Square. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Ellerbeck Street. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): I'll spell this one, e-l-l-e-r-s-l-i-e Avenue. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Ellesmere Road. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Ellie Drive, e-l-l-i-e. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

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NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Ellington Drive. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Ellins Avenue. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elliott Avenue. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elliotwood Court. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Ellis Avenue. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion: Ellis Gardens. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Ellis Park Road. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Ellis Park. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Ellison Avenue. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion: Ellsworth Avenue. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

Mr Laughren: On a point of order, Madam Chair: The next one, spelled e-l-m, we wish to withdraw.

The First Deputy Chair: We'll withdraw the one which says Elm.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elm Avenue. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred it.

Mr Laughren: On a point of order, Madam Chair: Can we withdraw the next one? It's a duplicate, Elm Avenue.

The First Deputy Chair: Okay, thank you. That's Elm Avenue, a duplicate, withdrawn.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elm Bank Road. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elm Drive. Is it the pleasure of the House that motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

Mr Laughren: On a point of order, Madam Chair: The next one, we wish to withdraw. It has no designation as to what Elm Grove is, a street, drive or whatever.

The First Deputy Chair: Thank you. Elm Grove will be withdrawn.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elm Grove Avenue. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion: Elm Park Drive. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elm Road. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elm Ridge Drive. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? Carried -- sorry, I withdraw that. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion: Elm Street. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elma, that's e-l-m-a, Elma Street. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elmartin Drive. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elmbrook Crescent. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elmcliffe Court. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elmcrest Road. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elmdon, e-l-m-d-o-n, that's Elmdon Court. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elmer Avenue. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elmfield Crescent. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elmhurst Avenue. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

Mr Laughren: On a point of order, Madam Chair: Can we withdraw the next one, Elmhurst? It is a duplicate.

The First Deputy Chair: Thank you. Withdrawn.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elmhurst Drive. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elmira Court. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elmlea Road. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

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NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elmont Drive. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4) --

Interjection.

The First Deputy Chair: Oh, I didn't -- I'm sorry.

Interjection: The vote will be deferred.

The First Deputy Chair: Yes, the vote will be deferred.

Mr Laughren: On a point of order, Madam Chair: I was waiting for you to say the vote was deferred.

The First Deputy Chair: Yes, I'm sorry, my mistake.

Mr Laughren: Is that finished with now?

The First Deputy Chair: Yes, it's now been announced it's been deferred.

Mr Laughren: Okay, thank you. I wanted to withdraw the motion dealing with Elmsdale; it's not properly designated.

The First Deputy Chair: There, that one will be withdrawn.

Mr Tony Martin (Sault Ste Marie): On a point of order, Madam Chair: I believe the noise that you're hearing around us here tonight is probably the spirit of William Lyon Mackenzie trying to get in here.

The First Deputy Chair: That's not a point of order.

Interjection.

The First Deputy Chair: No, that is not a point of order.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elmsdale Road. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elmsthorpe Avenue. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elmvale Crescent. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elmview Avenue. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elmview Court. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elmview Drive. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Vote will be deferred.

Mr Laughren: On a point of order, Madam Chair: Could we please withdraw the next motion, which is for Elmwood: It's not properly designated.

The First Deputy Chair: Elmwood motion will be withdrawn.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elmwood Avenue. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elnathan Crescent, e-l-n-a-t-h-a-n. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The motion will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elora Road. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The motion will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elrose Avenue. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elsa Vineway. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Vote deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elsfield Road. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24: Elsinore Path, e-l-s-i-n-o-r-e. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elstree Road. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elswick Road. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Eltham Drive, that's e-l-t-h-a-m. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elton Crescent. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elvaston Drive. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elvin Avenue. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elvina Gardens. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elward Boulevard. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elway Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elwood Boulevard. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Elynhill Drive. Shall the motion carry?

Mr Martin: On a point of order, Madam Chair: Spell that. Is that one word or two words?

The First Deputy Chair: That's one word. It's e-l-y-nh-i-l-l, Elynhill.

Mr Martin: All one word?

The First Deputy Chair: Yes.

Mr Martin: Thank you.

The First Deputy Chair: Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Embers Drive, that's e-m-b-e-r-s Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Embla Street, that's e-m-b-l-a. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

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NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Emblem Court, that's e-m-b-l-e-m Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Embro Drive, e-m-b-r-o. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Emcarr Drive, that's e-m-c-a-r-r. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Emerald Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Emerson Avenue. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

Mr Laughren: On a point of order, Madam Chair: I believe the member for Wellington voted with the opposition in the last couple of votes but he wasn't in his right seat.

The First Deputy Chair: I don't think that was a serious point of order, was it? I don't think that's a point of order, but thank you anyway.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Emery Circle. All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Emily Avenue. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is lost.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Emmeline Crescent. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection --

Mr Laughren: On a point of order, Madam Chair: Despite your recent ruling about that lost vote, I still want to be helpful and we'd like to withdraw the next motion: Emmett, e-m-m-e-t-t, because it's not designated.

The First Deputy Chair: Thank you. That shall be withdrawn.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Emmett Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Emmott, that's e-m-m-o-t-t Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred. Pretty close.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Empire Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Empress Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Empringham Drive, e-m-p-r-i-n-g-h-a-m Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Enchanted Hills Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Endean Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye" --

Mr Martin: On a point of order, Madam Chair.

The First Deputy Chair: I'm in the middle of a vote. I have to continue calling in the vote but I can take it right after. Where was I?

All those in favour of the motion please say "aye." All those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

Point of order, member for Sault Ste Marie.

Mr Martin: The name of that street, would you spell it for me, please.

The First Deputy Chair: Endean, e-n-d-e-a-n.

I would like to ask members to please try, if you have a point of order, to not do it in the middle of the vote. Try really hard.

NDP motion -- am I moving too fast?

Interjections: No.

The First Deputy Chair: NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Enderby, that's e-n-d-e-r-b-y, Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Endicott, that's e-n-d-ic-o-t-t, Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Endsleigh Crescent, that's e-n-d-s-l-e-i-g-h, one word. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Endwood Road. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Enfield Avenue. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion: Englehart Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." All those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Englemount Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "hi." I'm going to have a drink of water and take a brief break here a moment.

Again: NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Englemount Avenue. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): English Ivyway. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

Mr Martin: On a point of order, Madam Chair: You listen to the ayes and the nays here and you, in your wisdom, make your decision. I'm wondering how much weight you put on something like, say, "nay, no," as opposed to "nay" or "yea"? Does it count twice?

Mr Laughren: It's a double negative.

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The First Deputy Chair: Please. To the member for Sault Ste Marie, I listen carefully to both sides of the House. If I hear noes and/or nays the same weight is carried, and if I hear yesses, of course, and ayes, I put the same weight on the negative or the affirmative.

Mr Martin: Just further on that point of order, I think the member for Nickel Belt makes an excellent point when he suggests that we have a double negative there. The "nay, no" shouts --

The First Deputy Chair: This is not a point of order. Please take your seat.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Enid Crescent. All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

Mr Alvin Curling (Scarborough North): On a point of order, Madam Chair: Do we have a quorum?

The First Deputy Chair: Do we have a quorum, Clerk?

Clerk at the Table (Mr Todd Decker): Quorum is present, Chair.

The First Deputy Chair: Quorum is present.

Interjections.

The First Deputy Chair: Order, please.

Mr Laughren: On a point of order, Madam Chair: I trust you will allow me to make my point here. You will recall that a couple of days ago there was a motion passed for Cafon Court in Etobicoke that it would have a public hearing into any aspect or regulations of the bill that would affect the people living on that street. I have in my hand a petition from people who live on Ennerdale Road, e-n-n-e-r-d-a-l-e, who feel that --

The First Deputy Chair: Member for Nickel Belt --

Mr Laughren: Just a very short conclusion -- that since the people in Cafon Court have a right to this hearing, then the people on Ennerdale Road should have a right to no less than that.

The First Deputy Chair: That is not a point of order. You're quite right, yes. It's not a point of order.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Ennerdale Road. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

Interjections.

The First Deputy Chair: Order. Member for Sault Ste Marie, take your seat.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Ennismore Place, that's e-n-n-i-s-m-o-r-e Place. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Ensign Place, that's e-n-s-i-g-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is lost.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Enterprise Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Envoy Gate. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is lost.

NDP motion subsection 24(4): Epping Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is lost.

The Chair recognizes the member for Sault Ste Marie on a point of order.

Mr Martin: We were wondering which one of us wasn't standing up.

The First Deputy Chair: It's not my job to keep track of who stands and who doesn't. I just have to count side members. You can battle it out among yourselves.

The Chair recognizes the Minister of Education on a point of order.

Hon Mr Wilson: Just to clarify for the member opposite, I believe that the person who didn't stand up was the person who has recently returned from the state of Texas and is still in the state of confusion.

The First Deputy Chair: Okay, thank you for that. It is not a point of order.

The Chair recognizes the member for Sault Ste Marie on a point of order.

Mr Martin: I realize that some of us are taller than others and sometimes it may seem like some are standing and some are sitting when in fact they are standing.

The First Deputy Chair: I am not going to enter into debate on this. I am looking very carefully and I think both sides of the House will say that I pause and I give every opportunity on both sides of the House, and it has to be done in a timely fashion. There were four people on their feet period.

Interjection.

The First Deputy Chair: No, member for Sault Ste Marie. This is not a point of order. Is it another point? Okay, another point of order. The Chair recognizes the member for Sault Ste Marie on a point of order.

Mr Martin: I am wondering just for my own benefit if when the member from Windsor-Sandwich stands up if perhaps you can't see me? She's tall. She's very tall.

The First Deputy Chair: It's not even 3 o'clock in the morning yet. I am used to this after 3. Let's get back to the motions.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Eppleworth Road, e-p-p-l-e-w-o-r-t-h. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Epsom Avenue, e-p-s-o-m. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Epsom Downs Drive, that's three words. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Equestrian Court, e-q-u-e-s-t-r-i-a-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Erbsville. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Erica Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." Shall the motion carry? The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Erie Beach Blvd, e-r-i-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Erie Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

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NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Eriksdale Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Erin Brook Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Erin Mills Parkway. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Erinbrook Court, e-r-i-n-b-r-o-o-k. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Erindale Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Eringate Drive, e-r-i-n-g-a-t-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Erinlea Crescent, e-r-i-n-l-e-a. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

Mr Laughren: A point of order: the next motion we would like to withdraw, Erskine, e-r-s-k-i-n-e, because it's inappropriately designated.

The First Deputy Chair: Thank you. That shall be withdrawn.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Ernest Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Errington Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Erskine Avenue, e-r-s-k-i-n-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Esandar Drive, e-s-a-n-d-a-r. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Esgore Drive, e-s-g-o-r-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Esmond Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Esposito Crescent, e-s-p-o-s-i-t-o. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Esposito Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

Mr Gerry Martiniuk (Cambridge): On a point of order: I wonder Madam Chair, in view of the fact that the member for Windsor-Sandwich is permanently standing in her chair, how you know whether or not she is standing for the division or not standing for the division.

The First Deputy Chair: I sought some advice from the very able table officer and he made a very good point, that when I look, I see five or more people standing or not. I don't see her standing in the meantime because I'm not looking that way. If she's standing when I look, she's standing and it's part of the vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Esquire Circle. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Esquire Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Esrkine. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Essex Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

Mr Laughren: On a point of order, Madam Chair: the next one in sequence is Esson, e-s-s-o-n l-k, "look," I guess. We wish to withdraw that one.

The First Deputy Chair: It think that might be Esson Link. I'm not sure, though. Okay, withdrawn.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Estate Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

Mr Laughren: On a point of order: we wish to withdraw "Estelle", and I hope she won't mind, e-s-t-e-l-l-e.

The First Deputy Chair: Right. Estelle shall be withdrawn.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Estelle Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

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NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Esterbrooke Avenue, that's one word, e-s-t-e-r-b-r-o-o-k-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Esther Lorrie Drive, that's three words. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Ethel Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Vote will be deferred.

NDP motion: Ethelwin Avenue, that's one word, e-t-h-e-l-w-i-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred vote.

Mr Laughren: On a point of order, Madam Chair: May we withdraw the next one, which is Etobicoke, e-t-o-b-ic-o-k-e? Withdraw that.

The First Deputy Chair: Okay, Etobicoke will be withdrawn.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Etta Wylie Road, three words. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion 24(4): Ettrick Crescent, that's e-t-t-r-i-c-k Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Euclid Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

Ms Martel: On a point of order, Madam Chair: We wish to withdraw the next amendment because it is a duplicate.

The First Deputy Chair: Thank you, that's Euclid Avenue, duplicate. Withdrawn.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Euclid Place. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Eugene Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Eunice Road, that's e-u-n-i-c-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Evan Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Evandale Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Evangeline Court. All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

Ms Martel: On a point of order, Madam Chair: I'd like to withdraw the next amendment which reads as Evans.

The First Deputy Chair: Okay, Evans shall be withdrawn.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Evans Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

Ms Martel: On a point of order, Madam Chair: I'd like to withdraw the next amendment. It's a duplicate, Evans Avenue.

The First Deputy Chair: Thank you, that's Evans Avenue. That's withdrawn.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Evanston Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Evansville Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Evansway Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

Ms Martel: On a point of order, Madam Chair: I'd like to withdraw the next amendment which appears as Evelyn.

The First Deputy Chair: The motion with Evelyn shall be withdrawn.

Then, NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Evelyn Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Evelyn Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Evenwood Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Everden Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Everett Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Everglades Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Evergreen Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Evergreen Gardens. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Evan Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

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NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Evergreen Gardens. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Everingham Court, e-v-e-r-i-n-g-h-a-m. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Evermede Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Evernby Boulevard. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Eversfield Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Evesham Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Ewart Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

Ms Martel: On a point of order: Madam Chair, I'd like to withdraw the next amendment, which appears as Exbury.

The First Deputy Chair: The one with Exbury shall be withdrawn.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Exbury Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Executive Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Exeter Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Exford Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Exhibition Place. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

Ms Martel: On a point of order: Madam Chair, I would like to withdraw the next amendment. It's a duplicate.

The First Deputy Chair: Exhibition Place, duplicate. Withdrawn.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Exmoor Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fabian Place. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fabray Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The motion will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Failsworth Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Vote deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fair Glen Crescent. That's three words. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote shall be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fairbank Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is lost.

Interjection: Lost?

The First Deputy Chair: Well, one, two, three, four --

Hon Mr Palladini: Madam Chair, a hand vote is fine.

The First Deputy Chair: I didn't know that, and it may have affected previous votes a couple of times.

Interjections.

The First Deputy Chair: It didn't? Okay. I must have been sleepy when that ruling was made.

Ms Castrilli: You were not here. It was a previous Chair that ruled.

The First Deputy Chair: Oh, good.

Mr Martin: You've confused us thoroughly. That's okay.

The First Deputy Chair: Let's put it this way. I was confused unnecessarily, because nobody informed me that there had been a special unanimous consent for this. I'm glad that we have that clear.

I'd like to reverse the results of that vote therefore. It was my mistake. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fairbourne Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fairchild Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Faircrest Circle. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Faircroft Boulevard. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fairfax Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fairfield Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fairfield Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fairford Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fairgate Close, c-l-o-s-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

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Mr Sean G. Conway (Renfrew North): Al, were you ever in a choir?

Hon Mr Palladini: It was such a long time ago, though, Sean, a long time ago. I used to be an altar boy.

The First Deputy Chair: That's nice.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fairglen Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Vote deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fairhaven Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fairhill Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fairholme Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Vote deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fairland Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Vote deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fairlawn Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The motion will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fairleigh Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fairlin Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Vote deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fairmar Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Vote deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fairmeadow Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Vote deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fairmount Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

Interjections.

The First Deputy Chair: Are people getting bored?

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fairside Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fairview Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fairway Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fairway Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fairweather Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fairwood Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Faith Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Falaise Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Falcon Lane. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Falcon Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Falkirk Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fallingbrook Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fallingbrook Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fallingbrook Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fallingbrook Woods. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fallingdale.

Mr Laughren: Point of order.

The First Deputy Chair: I'm in the middle of a vote. I take it you want to withdraw this.

Mr Laughren: Yes, withdraw.

The First Deputy Chair: Okay, I'll take that as a point of order and we will withdraw Fallingdale.

Mr Martin: Point of order.

The First Deputy Chair: Could members take their seats while I take this point of order. Member for Sault Ste Marie on a point of order.

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Mr Martin: It's difficult sometimes, Chair, if there's no space between you saying the name and then moving into the vote, to either put in a point of order to remove or withdraw, or for somebody to stand up and perhaps ask that the name be spelled or to get further clarification on the name, because the name, as you know, Chair, has now become of utmost importance in this process, given the ruling of the Speaker this afternoon. I think it's really important that we protect that little piece now that we have left to make sure we all get a chance to say our piece.

The First Deputy Chair: Thank you, member for Sault Ste Marie. I understand your point totally and I agree. It's a very good point and I now understand the difficulties; I didn't before your raising this point of order. I will endeavour to pause between so people have an opportunity. Okay, let's get going again, and thank you for that point of order, member for Sault Ste Marie.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fallingdale Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fallowfield Road. Shall the motion carry? All in favour of the motion please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fallsview Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fallmouth Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

I'm going to have to ask people to come to order while we're taking the votes. There is too much conversation going back and forth, and I would hate to miss any of the ayes and nays.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Falstaff Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Faludon Court. Shall the motion carry?

Mr Gerard Kennedy (York South): Absolutely.

The First Deputy Chair: Member for York South, I would appreciate it if you would just say "yes" or "carried," without commentary.

Mr Kennedy: I didn't know there was a restriction.

The First Deputy Chair: Well, maybe there isn't, but it's difficult for me to concentrate on the reading when you continue to do that. Thank you.

Mr Kennedy: Out of respect for you, Madam Chair, I will be glad to comply.

The First Deputy Chair: NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Faludon Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Falwyn Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fanfare Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Faraday Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

Interjections.

The First Deputy Chair: Would members come to order, please.

Mr Conway: I think we should call Clyde Gilmour, because we're almost a chorus.

The First Deputy Chair: Member for Renfrew North, come to order. I would ask all members to come to order. Okay, are we ready? No, the member for Renfrew North is not ready, right? You are? Okay.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fareham Crescent, f-a-r-e-h-a-m. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fargo Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Farina Mill Way, three words. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Farley Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Farm Green Way, three words. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

Mr Laughren: Point of order, Madam Chair.

The First Deputy Chair: Point of order, the member for Nickel Belt. Member for Renfrew North, come to order. You cannot continue to carry on a continuous conversation across the floor. That's it. Member for Nickel Belt.

Mr Laughren: The next one is Farm Greenway, which is almost a duplicate, close enough to a duplicate of the previous one that we wish to have it withdrawn: f-a-r-m g-r-e-e-n-w-a-y.

The First Deputy Chair: Okay. That's withdrawn.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Farmbrook Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Farmcote Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Farmcrest Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Farmhill Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Farmingdale Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

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NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Farmington Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

Mr Laughren: On a point of order, Madam Chair: We wish to withdraw the next motion which is for Farmstead, f-a-r-m-s-t-e-a-d, which is where Emily lives.

The First Deputy Chair: The motion with Farmstead in it has been withdrawn.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Farmstead Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Farmview Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Farnham Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Farningham Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Farnsworth Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Farrell Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fascan Drive. That's f-a-s-c-a-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Ffolkes Court. That's spelled F-f-o-l-k-e-s. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

Mr Conway: It's a brave man from Durham West who --

The First Deputy Chair: Member for Renfrew North, you're at it again.

Mr Conway: I know. I was provoked.

The First Deputy Chair: Yes, I'm sure you were.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fasken Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Field Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Faulkner Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fielding Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Faversham Crescent. That's spelled f-a-v-e-r-s-h-a-m. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fieldstone Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

Interjections.

The First Deputy Chair: You can tell there's a change in shift. We're getting new sounds.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fawcett Trail. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fieldwood Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fawndale Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred vote.

Mr Laughren: On a point of order, Madam Chair: The next motion in sequence is for Fife Island, and even though Estelle lives on Fife Island, I'd like to withdraw it.

The First Deputy Chair: I'm withdrawing, to be very clear here, the amendment which reads Fife Island. That's f-i-f-e.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fawnhaven Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fifeshire Road. That's spelled f-i-f-e-s-h-i-r-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fawnridge Trail. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fifth Street. That's f-i-f-t-h. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion --

Interjection: Dispense.

The First Deputy Chair: Dispense? No. Subsection 24(4): Faywood Boulevard. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

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NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Featherwood Place. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

Mr Laughren: On a point of order, Madam Chair: I could be wrong, but I seek your guidance. We have a Fima Crescent, f-i-m-a. I don't know whether I missed it.

The First Deputy Chair: Just let us take a look. It's f-i-m-a, and we didn't do it, I take it?

Mr Laughren: That's what I believe.

The First Deputy Chair: That must be coming up because we're still in the -- could you spell that again?

Mr Laughren: It's f-i-m-a, m as in Mary.

The First Deputy Chair: Just give us a moment. We're unable to locate it in this pile, but if you can set it aside we'll keep an eye out for it. If at the end of the process we haven't found it, then we'll deal with it.

Mr Laughren: Perhaps when we get to the end of the Fs we could deal with it then.

The First Deputy Chair: Yes, that might be a good idea to do it then.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fee Place. That's f-e-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Finchdene Square. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Finchley Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Felan Crescent. That's f-e-l-a-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Findlay Boulevard. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Feldbar Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Finsbury Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Felicity Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote shall be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fiona Terrace. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

Mr Laughren: Point of order, Madam Chair: I'm not sure our two stacks are in sync here, that your pile of amendments is in sync with the one I have, but the next one I have is Felstead, and we would wish that to be withdrawn, please.

The First Deputy Chair: Okay, that will be withdrawn.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Firebrace Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Feltham Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Farrington Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fenelon Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fashion Roseway. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fenlon Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Faulkland Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fenn Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Faversham. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

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NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fennings Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fawcett Trail. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fenwick Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

Mr Laughren: Point of order, Madam Chair: I wonder if you would permit us to withdraw the motion dealing with Fawn Lk.

The First Deputy Chair: Did I skip that one or are you withdrawing it?

Mr Laughren: I'm withdrawing it.

The First Deputy Chair: Okay. Withdrawn.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Ferbane Place. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

Mr Laughren: On a point of order, Madam Chair: We would like to withdraw Fawnhaven, which is inappropriately designated.

The First Deputy Chair: Okay. Withdrawn.

Mr Curling: On a point of order, Mr Chair: In the rotation, isn't it Mr Johnson who was coming in at this time, sir?

The Chair: Would you prefer Mr Johnson?

Mr Curling: I would much prefer Mr Johnson. Do we have unanimous consent? I didn't hear unanimous consent.

Mr Martin: Point of order, Mr Chair: Rather than disturb you once you get into the cadence of the process here, I would think perhaps at this point it would be appropriate for you as Chair to put the question, particularly to the government members, of whether now, after five days, they wish to reconsider and withdraw the bill.

The Chair: I can't hear a point of order. Take your seat. It doesn't look like a point of order to me.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fermanagh Avenue, f-e-r-m-a-n-a-g-h. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fawnridge Trail. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred vote.

Mr Laughren: On a point of order, Mr Chair: Welcome back to the House. I would like to withdraw the next motion dealing with Fern. It's inappropriately designated in the motion.

The Chair: Withdrawn.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Faye Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Feagan Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fernalroy Boulevard. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion, please say "aye." All those opposed, please say "nay." I declare the motion carried. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fernbank Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, of the motion please say "aye." All those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Federal Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Ferncrest Gate. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of then motion will please say "aye." Those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Feeney Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." Those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Ferndale Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." Those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Felbrigg Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." Those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

Mr Laughren: Point of order, Mr Chair: I would like to withdraw the motion dealing with Fernwood. It is inappropriately designated.

The Chair: Withdrawn. Thank you.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Felician Place. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." Those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fernwood Park Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." Those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Felstead Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." Those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Ferrier Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." Those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

Mr Laughren: Point of order, Mr Chair: I'd like to withdraw the motion dealing with Fenelon, f-e-n-e-l-o-n. It is not properly designated.

The Chair: NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Ferris Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." Those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fenley Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." Those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Ffolkes Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." Those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fenmar Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." Those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Field Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." Those opposed will please say "nay."

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NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Field Sparroway. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fielding Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will say "aye." All those opposed will say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fieldside Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the morion will say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fieldstone Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fieldway Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fieldwood Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fiesta Lane. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

Mr Laughren: On a point of order, Mr Chair, two points, actually. I'd like to withdraw the motion dealing with Fife Island, f-i-f-e. Second, I wonder if the Clerk has a list of the streets that have been dealt with. I have one that -- I'm not sure. I could have missed it when we doing it. It's Feagan Drive in the Fs. I wondered whether you had a list. I don't want you to have to go through all the motions.

The Chair: Would you spell it?

Mr Laughren: Yes: f-e-a-g-a-n. I'd be happy to spell it any number of times.

The Chair: I took it out for you.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fife's Bay Marina Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fifeshire Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fifteenth Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fifth Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Filbert Gate. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fima Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Finch Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Finchdene Square. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Finchgate Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Finchley Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

The member for Nickel Belt, you asked for Fima Crescent? That was deferred.

Mr Laughren: Yes. That was the first one. The second one was Feagan.

The Chair: We haven't found that one yet.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Finchurst Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Findlay Boulevard. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fingal Place. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Finsbury Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fintona Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

The member for Nickel Belt, Feagan was deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fiona Terrace. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fir Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Firebrace Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Firenza Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Firgrove Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Firma Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): First Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): First Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Firstbrooke Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

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NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Firth Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Firthway Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Firvalley Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Firwood Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fisher Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fisherville Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fishery Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fishleigh Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fisken Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fitzgibbon Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fitzroy Terrace. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Flagler Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Flagstaff Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Flagstick Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Flagstone Terrace. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Flamborough Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Flaming Roseway. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Flamingo Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Flamingo Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Flanders Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Flaremore Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Flatwoods Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Flavian Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Flax Garden Way. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Flaxman Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fleecemine Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fleet Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fleetwell Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fleetwood Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fleming Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fleming Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Flemington Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Flempton Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Flerimac Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fletcher Lake. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fletcher Place. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fletcherdon Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Flindon Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

Mr Laughren: A point of order, Mr Chair: The next one on the list is Flint, f-l-i-n-t, and we would appreciate having that one withdrawn.

The Chair: NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Flint Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Flintridge Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Flintwick Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Flintwood Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

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NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Flora Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Floral Pky. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

Mr Laughren: On a point of order, Mr Chair: The next two motions -- well, this is in the interest of expediting the process, and of time, because if there's a duplication, there'd have to be two sets of public hearings on that street. I think it's important that we withdraw when we see there's a duplicate.

The Chair: Florence and?

Mr Laughren: The first one is Florence, even though I'm very fond of her, and also Florence Avenue.

Mr Curling: On the same point: is that Florence Avenue in Scarborough or in North York?

The Chair: NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Florence Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Florence Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Florence Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Floyd Avenue Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Florida Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Foch Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred. That's Foch, like le Général Foch from the First World War.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fluellen Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Folkes Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Folcroft Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fondy Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Follis Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fontenay Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fontainebleau Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Forbes Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

Mrs Barbara Fisher (Bruce): On a point of order, Mr Chair: I'd just like to advise the House that Canada's women's national team just won the world cup.

Applause.

Mr Martin: On a point of order, Chair: Perhaps the government would like to consult the Canadian team on this piece of business that we have before us here in the House just to see whether they think that amalgamating Toronto as such is going to be good for hockey and amateur sport --

The Chair: That's not a point of order.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fonthill Place. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Forbes Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

Am I going too fast?

Interjection: No, not fast enough.

The Chair: I'm not going too fast? The next one is Forbes Road. We did Forbes Avenue already.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Forbes Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fordhouse Boulevard. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fordham Place. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fordwich Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fordover Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Forest Creek Parkway, Partway, Pointway, Pointway? Pointway. Forest Creek Pointway or Partway, whatever. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Foregate Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Forest Grove Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Forest Glen Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Forest Heights Boulevard. All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Forest Heights. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Forest Laneway. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Forest Hill Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Forest Manor. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Forest Laneway. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Forest Path Court. All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

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NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Forest Manor Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Forest Ridge Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Forest Point Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Forestone Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Forest View Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Forest Wood. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Forfar Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Forge Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Forks of the Credit Road. All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Forman Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Forsyth Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Forsyth Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Forsythia Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fort Dearborn Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

Mr Laughren: On a point of order, Mr Chair: The next motion deals with Fort Irwin, i-r-w-i-n and we would wish to have that withdrawn.

The Chair: It is withdrawn.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fort Rouille Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will say "aye." All those opposed will say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

Mr Laughren: On a point of order, Mr Chair: The next motion deals with Fortesque, f-o-r-t-e-s-q-u-e, and we wish to have that withdrawn.

The Chair: Withdrawn.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Forthbridge Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed will say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

Mr Laughren: On a point of order, Mr Chair: The next motion deals with a street called Fortieth, f-o-r-t-i-e-t-h, and we wish to have that withdrawn.

The Chair: Fortieth is withdrawn.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fortieth Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fortrose Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fortune Gate. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Forty First Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Forty Second Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Forty Third Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

Mr Laughren: On a point of order: I believe the next one in sequence is Fountain, f-o-u-n-t-a-i-n. We wish to have that withdrawn.

The Chair: It is withdrawn.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fountainhead Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Four Leaf Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

Mr Laughren: On a point of order: I would like to withdraw the motion dealing with Four Mile something or other.

The Chair: Lake. Yes.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Four Oaks Gate. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Four Seasons Place. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

Mr Laughren: On a point of order: Could I please withdraw the motion dealing with Four Winds.

The Chair: Withdrawn.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Four Winds Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Foursome Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fourteenth Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fork Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fourthgreen Place. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Fox Point. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Foxbar Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Foxcote Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Foxdale Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Foxden Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Foxhill Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Foxhound Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Foxmeadow Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Foxridge Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Foxrun Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Foxwarren Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Foxwell Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Foxwood Grove. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Foxwood Grv. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

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